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Masters Degree and Student Loan Debt…Should I Go There?

Posted with Leah’s permission:

“Hi Liz,

I’m enrolled to start at Drexel this fall. But I’ve suddenly developed some weird cloud over my head about the enormous debt I’m going to face when I get out…(all the financial doomsday prophesies don’t help either) I mean, I am passionate about it, but it’s like some fear bug hopped on the train and is trying to get me to pull the brake. How has it been since you graduated? Did it take time to find work? What has been most rewarding from the degree? I’m beginning to think I should just continue volunteering and working a mediocre job to pay the bills.. but I don’t want to settle yet.

Thanks,
Leah

Hi Leah,

I can understand where you’re coming from. The idea of being buried under a sea of debt is scary, and I applaud your practical thinking!

For me (and most of the people I graduated with), I had no problem finding a job after leaving school…but that doesn’t mean that the jobs turned out to be “dream jobs”. In the psyc field, you need to pay your dues for a few years after graduating before you can begin being selective about the work you do. For example, it takes approximately 2 years of full time work before you gain enough hours to become licensed (as an Art Therapist and as a Licensed Professional Counselor). Also, the pay scale is not great for many of these jobs.

That being said, if you love art therapy, there maybe something you can do to help repay your student loan debt quickly. Since I’m not American, I never had to deal with the student loan system…so I’m unclear as to how this works. However, it’s my understanding that if you take a job with qualified agencies who work with underserved populations, and you work for X amount of time, your student loan will be forgiven. I did a quick google search, and here’s some info I came up with: http://nhsc.hrsa.gov/loanrepayment/ At first glance, it seems that you need to get licensed first and then you can try for one of these jobs.

Going back to my Drexel degree—There were many rewarding parts of my education. Firstly, my cohort really connected with one another, and I keep in touch with many of my old classmates, even though I live across the country. I can say the same about the faculty. I found them to be nurturing and they really helped me to establish myself as a professional in the mental health field. Also, I found that the amount of learning that took place during my grad school education was tremendous! I grumbled about it while I was reading hundreds of pages a night and writing papers, but in retrospect, I got a lot out of it and found myself more prepared than most new therapists to work in mental health.

I hope this helps clarify things for you :) It’s one of those things that you need to decide to jump into somewhat blind…we cannot foresee what the future holds, but we can make an educated choice. I also would encourage you to check out my post about getting a Doctorate degree and Cathy Malchiodi’s 6 posts on choosing art therapy as a field.

Warm Regards,
– Liz

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The Drexel Creative Arts Therapy Program

Left as a comment, Lauren asks:

How competitive is it to get into the Creative arts therapy program at Drexel? To my knowledge, it seems like the most intensive art therapy graduate program. Can you describe your experience in the program?

Any type of information would be really helpful! Thanks.

Hi Lauren,

At this point, I’m not sure how many people apply to the Drexel CAT program vs. how many are accepted. I remember there was a group interview (with multiple potential students, the director and assistant director of the program), which was followed by an individual interview. I brought my portfolio with me, which I went over during my 1:1 interview. I also had strong grades and Miller Analogies Test scores, which helped to seal the deal, although I think there’s some leniency afforded to those who seem like a “good fit” in the program.

The Drexel art therapy program was intensive—5 days a week, full time classes and internships, plus lots of reading and writing to do at home. There was still time for fun, but it was a pretty big adjustment for everyone in the program.

My background in taking lots of psychology courses (and history courses, that have huge reading and writing assignments) during my undergrad was extremely beneficial. Many students who had a fine arts background, with very little experience in academia, seemed overwhelmed by the workload and expectations for writing quality. They all made it through, but many needed extra support to help with their writing skills.

The program begins by teaching the basics of psychodynamic theory at the same time as teaching about the basics of art therapy theory, which is rooted in psychodynamic theory. If you already have taken a course on psychodynamic theory before entering the Drexel program, you’ll find the first semester much easier.

Some students took issue to the emphasis on psychodynamic theory, which is very prominent during the first year (in your second year there are courses focusing on various other paradigms). During your internships, you may experience the use of only cognitive behavioral therapy or behavioral therapy, and wonder why you need to know about psychodynamics. In my experience, however, this solid foundation in psychodynamics has made me a better therapist—one that can move dynamically between the practical solutions provided by CBT (or DBT) and the unconscious world that emerges through the artwork. Feedback given to me by seasoned therapists and psychiatrists have emphasized that this ability is unusual in younger therapists, since younger therapists tend to have little or no training in the unconscious, defense mechanisms and personality structures.

I have no experience with any other art therapy program—I’m sure they all teach the “art of art therapy”—but I feel that Drexel gave me a solid academic foundation and prepared me to be a solid clinician.

Now, if only I could get a license to practice counseling in California! Then I’d be set ;)

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To Dr. or not to Dr.

After reading Cathy Malchiodi’s So You Want to Be an Art Therapist, Part Six: Should I Get a Doctorate?, I felt inspired to discuss my grapplings with the subject.

Getting a PhD is something I’ve considered at different points in my career, for various reasons, mainly as a way to solve my issues with CA licensing. (The LPCC has been passed, but due to budget issues the Board of Behavioral Sciences is not accepting applications, and no one knows when they will).

Here are some of my qualms about going back to school for a PhD of some kind:

  • I’m unsure whether there’s a University in my geographical area that is willing to recognize my MA. I haven’t seriously applied and asked my degree to be evaluated, but when I’ve casually talked to representatives of various psyc departments, I didn’t get the supportive feedback I was hoping for. One alternative would be to obtain a PhD or PsyD from an online accredited University program.

  • I’m unwilling to take on student loan debt.

  • I’m not confident that another 3-5 years study, practicum, post-grad hours and studying for state licensure will bring me any further in my career than waiting to be able to receive the LPCC in CA.

  • I’m unsure if I even want a PhD in a counseling or psychology field. I may be more marketable with a degree in occupational therapy or perhaps even nursing (each are recognized licensable fields with lots of job market demand).

  • I’m interested in technology, ethics and how it applies to art therapy practice. I’m doing this learning independently with resources I’ve found throughout the internet, such as continuing education courses, message boards and blogs. I’m not convinced that a formal educational institution has the tools to guide my learning any better than what I’m doing myself (other than, perhaps, a teletherapy certification program).

Although my list is overall rather negative (which is why I’m not currently pursuing a PhD!), Cathy makes some excellent points for the positives of continuing your education, including the benefits of such education if your goal is to pursue a career as a researcher. Also, check out the video that she linked to her post—very amusing!

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Is an MA in Art Therapy Right for Me?

Here’s a question from a reader, posted with her consent:

Liz,

I, like a few of your readers, came across your blog as I was searching for guidance on whether or not to return to school to study art therapy. I graduated from UC Irvine in 2009 in Arts and Humanities, but I mostly practice photography, mixed media, and 3-d arts. Some of the programs I have researched will require me to take a few classes in more figurative modes of art, as well as psychology (both I am glad to do, and would probably have done anyway, as I really enjoy school), but which would also require that I figure out what I want sooner than later.

I have been interested in art therapy for a few years now, but am also interested in studying non-profit administration. My main concern about going back to school, is investing time and money into a degree in art therapy and then being limited to being an art therapist because of that degree. Have you found this to be a problem for you or any fellow colleagues?

I would love to shadow an art therapist to get a closer view of if I can handle being an art therapist, but I am not licensed, so I am not really sure who would accept me.

Any information or advice you can provide me with would be infinitely helpful. Thanks!

Shannon

Hi Shannon,

Art therapy programs will certainly require certain psyc credits, and sometimes they’re specific about what types of art courses they’d like under your belt (you will need at least 3 formal art courses beyond what you do on your spare time). Some schools will ask you to bring a portfolio to the applicant interview. In terms of picking a school, definitely go to open houses and meet the program directors and teachers. It’ll help you get a better idea re: whether you’re a good fit for the school/program, and help make clear what prerequisites you’ll indeed need to focus on.

I’m not sure what non profit administration entails, but it seems like it maybe something you can learn with on-the-job experience? Art therapists can become a program director or clinical director of a non-profit after a certain amount of experience and licenses obtained. It seems that you’d need to think about what role you’d like to play within a non-profit organization, and research people with those job titles. You may find they have a psyc or medical background.

With an art therapy degree you can become limited in what jobs you qualify for. However, if you make sure you go to a program that not only fits the criteria for you to get an ATR (registered art therapist), but also a state license, such as LPCC, MFT or LCSW, your options will be more plentiful. Also, you should know that it takes several years of post-graduate work in order to obtain the hours to qualify for these licenses (so you won’t have them straight out of school).

Another option would be to get an MA in social work with an emphasis on non-profit work (ie: grant writing) and then do a post-masters certificate in art therapy. However, there are only a few schools that offer a post-masters certificate. Notre Dame de Namur in the Bay Area has this option.

In terms of volunteering, you can try emailing your local chapter of AATA (either NorCATA or SocalATA) and ask them if they know of any opportunities. You can also try to find community organizations that offer art groups to vulnerable populations. These groups most likely will be offered by artists who have a knack for working with the physically or mentally ill, but some maybe free groups offered by art therapists. Either way, it should help you get your toes into a world similar to art therapy.

I hope this helps!

Regards,
– Liz

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Techno-Art Therapy Education

Hi Liz,

Found your art therapy blog and your willingness to answer questions has encouraged me to ask one! I’m an artist looking at a career in art therapy, my work is in multimedia – sound art, video, technology and interactivity. If you know of any courses or institutions that have a leaning in this direction, or any relevant resources or communities you could point me towards that would be fantastic!

Thanks, Dan.

Hi Daniel,

In my experience, any art therapy program would embrace multimedia art making. However, when it comes to in-class assignments and experientials, you may encounter that the only supplies available are “traditional” ones (paint, clay, markers, colored pencils, etc…) That being said, unless the experiential involves teaching you something specific about traditional media use in the art therapy session, there is no reason that you couldn’t bring in your laptop and create artwork on it, right there in class.

At this point, the art therapy community is standing on the edge of truly accepting technology within its teaching and practice. I doubt you will find any art therapy schools that offer a digital art therapy class. Also, I would expect that due to budget concerns, you may not have access to the technology that you want and need in your internships. But—you can find ways to begin integrating your artistic expertise…it all depends on your resourcefulness and creativity! From the sound of it, I’m sure you have an abundance of both :)

In my opinion, we need more art therapists who have knowledge of new media and technology in the field. So if you came to my program, I would first encourage you to learn the basics of art therapy (with traditional media) and then begin exploring the “how to” and the “benefits of” integrating technology within the therapeutic milieu. My advice is that when you’re checking out schools in your area, openly ask questions about the attitude of the school/professors regarding the use of technology within your art therapy studies and practicums. Through open dialogue you should be able to find the schools that resonate best with you.

Warm Regards,
– Liz

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Art Therapy as a Second Career

Below is an email conversation between a reader, Lynn, and I:

Hi Liz,

I stumbled upon your blog as I’m debating whether to go back to school for art therapy. I basically have a week or so to put my application together in order to have a shot of starting grad school again this fall.

I have a masters in art education, and I’ve been teaching art in the south Bronx in New York for almost two year. Working with the kids in the Bronx made me realize art education isn’t enough for some of these children. Many kids come from unstructured and broken families which caused a lot of behavioral problems. Some of their behaviors are so disruptive to the point that I can’t teach on a regular basis. After almost two years of teaching, I’ve finally became okay with those disruptive kids who are not able to meet the objective of the lesson; as long as they aren’t being unsafe or disruptive, that’s all the matters to me right now. However, at the same time, part of me feel guilty for not being able to provide those kids art because of their difficult behaviors as they are probably the ones who need art the most of all. It made me wonder how would it be like to provide art therapy for these children, and what it would be like to combine art education and art therapy together in the classroom. I’m not sure if anyone has done things like this before, and I’m just wondering what your thoughts are. I just want to be sure this is something that I’m interested enough in to invest another two years in school. A friend of mine mentioned that some people who work as an art therapist get warped up emotionally which could make their job seem depressing as they are emotionally affected. I just wonder if I have what it takes to work in art therapy.

Any thought and suggestion you may have, I would much appreciate it. Thanks Liz! Hope to hear from you soon.

Best,
Lynn

Hey Lynn,

Your question is a really good one.

I think being an art therapist in a school setting (and there are lots of school art therapists out there!) won’t be that much different from what you’re already doing, except that you’ll be coming from a different perspective. In other words, your primary responsibility will be therapeutic services and case management, rather than teaching. You won’t be seeing as much of the “normal” or “well adjusted” kids that you currently work with. As a school art therapist you’d primarily be working with the disruptive ones (which is why they’ll be referred to you in the first place).

That being said, I used to work with kids in a community mental health center, all of whom had behavioral problems in schools, but somehow most of them didn’t exhibit those behaviors during 1:1 therapy sessions or groups sessions. For the most part, they were redirectable and respectful. I think maybe that had to do with the nature of art therapy—you’re not trying to “teach” anything in particular. No curriculum. Rather, you’re allowing the client to explore the materials, while offering a contained environment and unconditional positive regard. For example, if you know the kid you’re working with gets easily frustrated and then angry, you wouldn’t work with something that takes lots of patience to learn and execute. You would stick to markers and colored pencils, and make sure whatever the client was doing, he’d be successful. When children are given the opportunity to do what they want artistically to express themselves, while at the same time feeling supported by the therapist, wonderful things can happen. Perhaps some of the behavior difference also had to do with the client/staff ratio. It’s also much easier for a child to feel supported when they’re alone with the therapist, or with 5-10 kids, in a group setting. As you know all too well, class sizes are at least double that, and kids that are needy, easily stimulated or socially fragile have great difficulty in that kind of environment.

On the other hand, something that is often frustrating for therapists is that the kids they work with go home to chaotic environments. It can feel like all the emotional and social learning that took place during therapy gets undone at the end of the day. This is something that all therapists who work with kids in an outpatient (or school environment) have to come to terms with, and tends to be a hot topic in supervision, where the art therapy intern (or post-grad) talks with a more senior therapist for advice. Lots of times school therapists also meet with the families, and my provide family therapy with the child present. That can be a difficult experience too because you’re meeting the disfunction head on. Some families may not be interested in changing what’s going on in the home. Also, it’s certainly true that therapists can take on emotional residue from what goes on in session. Self-care, supervision, art-making and your own therapy can help to let go of difficult emotions transferred to you during the day.

So…I guess my point is that being a therapist is an emotionally demanding job. Just like teachers, therapists tend to have high burn-out rates. The fact that you have your eyes open because you already work in a helping profession is good because you understand firsthand how difficult front-line work can be. Everyone comes to terms with these realities in their own way, and usually the thing that gets us through is seeing the good part of our jobs—when a client does connect with you, grow, and learn something about themselves and the world. Thankfully, the amazing part of working with kids is that they are programmed to grow and learn innately. It’s more likely to see that kind of good stuff (on a continuous basis) with kids than it is with other (adult) populations.

I hope this helps Lynn! Good luck in your decision making :) You can always apply and think about it some more while you wait for the acceptance letter.

Regards,
– Liz

Hi Liz,

Thank you so much for your speedy response! Just few more questions…

How long have you been an art therapist? Do you see yourself continuing working in the art therapy field for a while?

I understand that some schools takes more psycho dynamic approaches to therapy and some places more emphasis on humanistic approaches. What are the differences?

Best,
Lynn

Hey Lynn,

I’ve been an art therapist for 3 years, but if you include my internships, it’s more like 5.

I really love what I do! But, just like being a teacher, there’s the sense that you work really hard for not that much pay….although, going into private practice can be a lucrative venture (if you set it up right). Same with being a health care administrator. But, those are things that are way down the road for me.

I hesitate to answer the question regarding whether I see myself long-term in the art therapy field, because I’m in the process of rethinking my goals…and much of that has to do with the ridiculous bureaucracy in California when it comes to state licensure. California is in the process of making a new license for Professional Counselors, which is usually the license art therapists practice under. CA was the last state to make this law, and they’re making it extremely difficult for people who already hold an out of state masters degree to obtain the license (I got my degree in Philadlephia). So…I’m worried that I may not get a license here, and will need to move to another state if I want to continue practicing art therapy. This is not something that you would have to contend with in NY, because there is a specific license for art therapists in your state, although I’m not up-to-date on all the schtick about art therapy and NY state. I suggest contacting an art therapist in NY to see what the bureaucratic pitfalls are.

So…when it comes to psychodynamic vs. humanistic approaches, below is my opinion:

Art therapy was founded in the principals of psychodynamic theory by Margaret Naumburg, who called what she was doing Art Psychotherapy. Around the same time, however, Edith Kramer founded a more humanistic/person centered approach to art therapy, Art as Therapy. So, the practice of art therapy is on a spectrum between Art Psychotherapy and Art as Therapy. There is a time and place for both, and therefore it’s important to have experience with both.

For me (and I suspect for you as well, since you’re already an art teacher), Art as Therapy came natural to me. It’s based on the principal that making art and being supported by an attuned art therapist will, by nature, facilitate self expression and healing. The psychodynamic part, however, requires lots of reading, training and practice before mastering (and it does take a lifetime to master). That’s not to say that one doesn’t need practice at staying attuned to our clients, because that also takes a lifetime to master. But, for me, I cannot imagine being an art therapist without the rigorous training on the psychotherapeutic aspects of the human psyche.

The school I went to (Drexel) was very psychodynamically oriented, and this annoyed many of the people in my cohort. However, by the second year, other ways of approaching clients were discussed, including humanistic. And I don’t see why someone can’t come from a place of understanding art therapy from a psychodynamic perspective, while at the same time being client centered—giving the clients unconditional positive regard and meeting them where they’re at. In fact, at Drexel “meeting the client where they’re at” was a mantra in our courses. In other words, being in a psychodynamically oriented program doesn’t mean that they train you to put the client on the couch and say nothing during sessions. Also, the more learning you do about other philosophies and ways of practicing therapy, the more you can integrate these ideas into your practice. Most students don’t have a clear idea of what philosophies resonate most with them until they’re at the end of their studies/internships, and this continues to develop once you’re a practicing professional.

I encourage you to visit the schools you’re thinking of attending—meet the director of the program, talk to students, see what the classes are like. This will help narrow down what school works best for you.

Regards,
– Liz

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Considering Art Therapy in California

Here’s a question that was emailed to me by Nicole A. and was posted with her permission;

Liz,
I have been considering Art Therapy as a career path. I love both art and psychology and thought that it would be a great way to combine my passions. I work full-time, have two kids and a mortgage, so I’m only able to take a few classes at a time. Once I finish my AA, and both of my kids are in school, I will be able to transfer to SJSU and be a full-time student. I have read that to be a registered art therapist, you must have your master’s. I just wanted to know if I will be able to find work in the feild after I earn my BA, while working on my master’s. I want to set my goals high, but because of my responsibilities I want to be realistic. I’m also curious what kind of salary an art theraptist with a private practice in California might earn on average?




Hey Nicole,

You definitely need a masters degree to be an art therapist. In California, most art therapy masters programs offer the option of being on a license track for an MFT (Marriage and Family Therapist). Having a state license is absolutely essential for both your job and earning prospects, so getting a dual MFT and art therapy degree is a very good option.

A new law passed in ’09 making LPCC (Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor) an option for CA licensure too. The LPCC isn’t available until next year, so I doubt any schools will be advertising this at the moment, but by the time you finnish your BA, I’m sure an LPCC track will be available as well.

Also, you don’t nessesarily need a masters in art therapy to ultimately become an art therapist. For example, you can have a masters degree in Nursing or Social Work and then go for a bit more schooling, pursuing an Art Therapy certificate. For example, NDNU has a Post Masters Advanced Standing option, where you take an extra 30 credits after you complete a masters degree in a related field. Nursing or social work are good options; A nurse’s earning potentials in California is quite high—especially if you have an RN (registered nurse) license and work as a supervisor or in administration. Social Workers have a lot of respect in the California mental health community and job opportunity, although many positions are looking for either an MFT or LCSW (Licensed Social Worker).

I dont work in private practice so I couldn’t tell you accurately about salary expectations. What I do know is that if you’re interested in serving underprivileged populations, meaning that you’ll be accepting medicare or medical as payment, you will earn very very little money. I attended a seminar once where the art therapist in private practice joked that she envies the Starbucks worker, because they probably make more money than she does—and with less stress. That being said, if you decide not to accept insurance, and only out of pocket pay, I think your earning potential can be rather high…but one must consider how long it takes to develop the clientele. For this reason, many people work part time in a “regular” job while developing their private practice.

In California, as an unlicensed art therapist (for example, while you’re completing your post masters training hours to become licensed, which takes about 2 years) you can expect to make about $30-40,000. As an art therapist with an MFT license, you can expect around $45,000-65,000 depending on where you work…maybe more. Working for the government (the VA or for the county) is much more lucrative than a non-profit. RNs can make between 65-80k easy. I’m not sure if having an art therapy credential would raise your earning potential as an RN, but it would certainly open some interesting doors!

Good luck with your pursuits and much respect for going back to school with 2 kids. My mom got her BA in nursing and then her MA in education while I was growing up. It was tough for her, but it was certainly worth it!

Regards
– Liz

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Moving to California?

The following are portions of an emailed question from Aimee in Philadelphia, PA:

Hi Liz-
I just finished the drexel program (literally, last week finished thesis), and stumbled on your blog today.
Am interested in the art therapy-CA situation- i thought that the ATR was not recognized in CA and/or that it was difficult to get a job there unless also credentialed in marriage & family counseling.

Your blog is great, Thanks,
Aimee Pugh (I was in same class as Maureen Vita, who did the workshop w/ boxes at ATAA)

Hi Aimee,

Congratulations on finishing your thesis! Pfew!

The CA art therapy situation is looking much better now that ever. The LPCC license just passed, meaning that CA will now have Licensed Professional Clinical Counselors, which is what most art therapists are licensed as in all other US states. The LPCC will not come into effect until next year (Jan 2011), so there will be no jobs advertising LPCCs until then.

The same governing board will be managing the marriage and family therapists (MFT) , social workers (LCSW) and LPCCs. The name of this group is the Board of Behavioral Sciences. Once you are registered with them as a clinician or as an intern (which means you’re completing your post-graduate hours towards licensure) many more jobs become available to you. For example, if you look on craigslist in San Francisco under jobs and type in MFT or MFTI (the I standing for intern) and then do a search for art therapist, you’ll see a huge difference.

The trick is that our degree may not actually qualify for the LPCC- especially since we earned our degree out of state (PA has different licensing requirements than CA). I can’t tell you for sure if your degree meets all of CA’s requirements, because Drexel’s art therapy program has changed it’s curriculum since I went to school there. You should check the LPCC’s website. They have a list of degree requirements plus you’ll find a list of about 6-8 classes you’ll need to take on top of your degree. The courses are pretty much all available online through Alliant University and through JFK Univeristy under continuing education.

In terms of job prospects without a license, there are some out there…but you have to really look around. I managed to get a job just fine, and have been working full time in a great facility.

I hope this is helpful to you!
Happy holidays,
– Liz

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Finding an Art Therapist



Periodically, I receive emails or comments asking if I can recommend an Art Therapist for a family member or friend, or if I accept private clients.

Since I am currently unlicensed in the state of California, I have made the decision not accept private clients. The LPCC (licensed professional clinical counselor) bill has passed, and I expect that to be licensed sometime in 2011. I am excited about the prospect of having a private practice, and will let you all know when it does happen.

Here are my suggestions on how to find an Art Therapist in your area:

  • Search for an Art Therapist by credential, state and country through the Art Therapy Credentials Board (ATCB). Please take in mind that the credentials listed on the ATCB website are for the license of ATR (registered art therapist) or ATR-BC (board certified art therapist), which applies to the United States. While there are some ATRs in other countries, Canada especially, you may find little information if your search terms are for outside the USA.
  • Most local Art Therapy Association chapters have a list of private practice therapists in the area. Find your local art therapy chapter in the USA here. To find an art therapy chapter in an area outside the USA, either do a google search (see below) or check the website of your national art therapy association.
  • Google search the terms “art therapist” and your local area, such as “art therapist and Bay Area”.
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    Volunteer with an Art Therapist



    Here’s a question posted originally posted on my contact page;

    Hello, my name is Jenie Hooper and I am a current student at Georgia Southern University. I graduate in December with my Bachelors in Psychology and I also have a Associates Degree of Art. I’m very interested in becoming an Art Therapist. However I’m having trouble finding a place where I can volunteer to gain some experience before going to graduate school to become an Art Therapist.

    I wish the AATA website, which has been recently updated and is soooo much better than before, had a section for people interested in volunteering with art therapists. Since they don’t, here are my suggestions (and if anyone else would care to add some, please do).

  • Email your local Art Therapy Association chapter, letting them know that you want to volunteer and whether they can send out a mass email to all their members, asking for anyone interested to contact you.
  • Join LinkedIn and become a member of the various art therapy groups that have popped up. Post your request on the LinkedIn group(s) of your choice.
  • Contact the Director of the Art Therapy Masters level program in your area. Perhaps he/she will be able to put you in contact with a colleague or know of more resources in your area
  • Join an art therapy group on Facebook. You can post your question there. Similar to LinkedIn, most art therapy groups on fb are global in nature, making it less likely that someone in your community would see your question and respond.

    • Good luck in your search, Jenie!